tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post114796962758336917..comments2024-03-14T05:51:12.959-05:00Comments on Stolen Thunder: The Picasso CodeDJ Drummondhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11583885371076583265noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148138846822488602006-05-20T10:27:00.000-05:002006-05-20T10:27:00.000-05:00Actually I was disapointed with the book and have ...Actually I was disapointed with the book and have no plan to see the movie. I bought the book because of the hype and I'm sure millions of others bought it for the same reason. As a mystery it is second rate and as a "conspiracy theory" it is unbelievable but I'm sure many will be entertained by the movie. <BR/>Just don't expect too much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148107712898256652006-05-20T01:48:00.000-05:002006-05-20T01:48:00.000-05:00dj, the gnostics made a radical seperation between...dj, the gnostics made a radical seperation between the spirit and flesh, with flesh being evil. You then ended up with two types of gnostics, those who were extreme ascetics and those who were libertines since flesh is evil anyway.<BR/><BR/>This also ties in with there understanding of Christ. Since flesh is evil, Christ could not be a human only a fascimile of a human. Thus no true incarnation. <BR/><BR/>Browns book claims it is based on fact, therefore it should be judged on the historical record. It fails miserably.Ron Ballewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00120553992041150992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148074873023722122006-05-19T16:41:00.000-05:002006-05-19T16:41:00.000-05:00The "it's just a movie" excuse? Right. It'd be val...The "it's just a movie" excuse? Right. It'd be valid if they applied it fairly across all topics, but the fact is that Hollywood and morality don't exactly mix, so the Church is always an easy target.<BR/><BR/>I'll be eagerly awaiting (til the end of time) The Da Vinci Code 2, which sheds light on Mohammad's steamy rendezvous with reformed prostitutes, and the line of their offspring in some magically insane way founding <I>The Great Satan</I>, the United States of America.<BR/><BR/>I wonder why he won't write that. Oh, <I>right</I> -- the Catholic Church boycotts; Muslims kill you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148068533844777932006-05-19T14:55:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:55:00.000-05:00a4g, Big Mo, I'm willing to consider that some of ...a4g, Big Mo, I'm willing to consider that some of the Gnostics were honestly trying to find out the truth, at least at first.<BR/><BR/>The problem was that the Gnostics started turning the Universal Gospel on its head, by claiming there were secrets needed to be learned, information that only the Gnostics had, and so made the Love of God into a shoddy product to be sold for money, and a power play for control of the Faith.DJ Drummondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11583885371076583265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148068075354975832006-05-19T14:47:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:47:00.000-05:00a4g - in a way, some people were a little confused...a4g - in a way, some people were a little confused about Christ, or more correctly, were being fed some false doctrine about Christ, hense part of the reason for Paul, Peter and John's various letters. <BR/><BR/>(But that's not what either you or DJ were getting at, is it?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148067860492275332006-05-19T14:44:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:44:00.000-05:00last anonymous - I'll say it real slow for you:A.....last anonymous - <BR/><BR/>I'll say it real slow for you:<BR/><BR/>A...lot...of...people...think...it's...true.<BR/><BR/>And Danny Brown says his book is based on facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148067795431951242006-05-19T14:43:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:43:00.000-05:00" a work of fiction "Yes, and that's the point. D...<I>" a work of fiction "</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, and that's the point. Dan Brown starts his book with several bits he calls <B>"fact"</B>. None of the claims actually meet that definition. Mr. Brown has repeatedly refused to correct the false claims.<BR/><BR/>The movie also treats the book as if it were a viable documentary treatment, rather than just another adventure flick. <BR/><BR/>Then again, judging by the audience response at Cannes, calling it an adventure flick misses the mark as well<BR/><BR/>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060516/ap_en_mo/film_cannes_da_vinci_code_2DJ Drummondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11583885371076583265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148067093103325572006-05-19T14:31:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:31:00.000-05:00"Just because someone sells alot of books does not..."Just because someone sells alot of books does not make it so. Brown simply re-hashed alot of old stuff and gave it a nice conspiracy twist. "<BR/><BR/>Say it with me .... you can do it .... we'll do it slow .... its ... a .... novel.<BR/><BR/>A ... novel ... a work ... of .... fiction.<BR/><BR/>There. All better?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148067053850698342006-05-19T14:30:00.001-05:002006-05-19T14:30:00.001-05:00I had to remove the post which contained the entir...I had to remove the post which contained the entire review by Roger Ebert.<BR/><BR/>I did not do this because the comment found the review favorable, but because posting an ENTIRE article in such a manner is in violation of Copyright law. <BR/><BR/>If you would like to repost, say with an HTML link to the review, and no more than a paragraph or two from the review, that would be fine. But please keep in mind your responsibility to Mr. Ebert.DJ Drummondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11583885371076583265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148067036852005992006-05-19T14:30:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:30:00.000-05:00There's the censoring deleter we all know and love...There's the censoring deleter we all know and love! No integrity, straight to the core.<BR/><BR/>Somehow I didn't think you'd let an actual review by someone who actually saw the film stand.<BR/><BR/>Delete away, Chairman Mao!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148066548399385202006-05-19T14:22:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:22:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148066735639899362006-05-19T14:25:00.000-05:002006-05-19T14:25:00.000-05:00"Brown made the fundamental mistake..."A mistake, ..."Brown made the fundamental mistake..."<BR/><BR/>A mistake, huh? He sold FORTY MILLION copies in like 30 countries.<BR/><BR/>Some mistake. By my math it would take you about 30,000 years to get that number of readers to your blog (and you ain't makin' $25 a customer)."<BR/><BR/>Just because someone sells alot of books does not make it so. Brown simply re-hashed alot of old stuff and gave it a nice conspiracy twist.Ron Ballewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00120553992041150992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148060526572964492006-05-19T12:42:00.000-05:002006-05-19T12:42:00.000-05:00What I found interesting is the following this com...What I found interesting is the following this comment from the judge in the Da Vinci Code/Holy Blood Holy Grail lawsuit:<BR/><BR/>"It would be quite wrong if fictional writers were to have their writings pored over in the way DVC (The Da Vinci Code) has been pored over in this case by authors of pretend historical books to make an allegation of infringement of copyright."<BR/><BR/>McKellen wanted Bible marked as fiction. Rather, he should say Holy Blood, Holy Grail should also be marked as fiction. Because the judge in the case considered the history "pretend" Brown won the lawsuit.<BR/><BR/>A friend of mine who used to live in France noted two things:<BR/><BR/>1. People were taking copies of DVC visiting locations as if it were historical, e.g. looking for non-existent lines in churches.<BR/>2. There was a lawsuit in France where the person who supposedly "discovered" the Priory of Zion was forced to admit in open court he made it all up.<BR/><BR/>Note the following from Wikipedia's article on Pierre Plantard:<BR/><BR/>Plantard later rejected these claims during the late 1980s when he revised the mythological pedigree of the Priory of Sion, claiming it had nothing to do with the Knights Templar, that the "Dossiers Secrets" was written under the influence of LSD, and that the Priory of Sion had in fact been founded in 1681 at Rennes-le-Château by the grandfather of Marie de Negri d'Ables. This revised version of the Priory of Sion had been influenced by the opening of the "Sauniere Museum" in Rennes-le-Chateau in May 1989.<BR/><BR/>In September, 1993, Plantard claimed that Roger-Patrice Pelat had once been grandmaster of the Priory of Sion. Pelat was a friend of the then-President of France François Mitterrand and center of a scandal involving French Prime Minister Pierre Bérégovoy. A French court ordered a search of Plantard's home, turning up many documents, including some proclaiming Plantard the true king of France. Under oath, Plantard admitted that he had fabricated everything, including Pelat's involvement with the Priory of Sion.[1] Plantard lived in obscurity until his death on 3 February 2000 in Paris.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08488788114464113631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148060067819761592006-05-19T12:34:00.000-05:002006-05-19T12:34:00.000-05:00I knew Brown was full of it from the title.It isn'...I knew Brown was full of it from the title.<BR/><BR/>It isn't "Da Vinci;" that is a place name. The artist is Leonardo.<BR/><BR/>It's like saying Christians believe in "Of Nazereth."<BR/><BR/><BR/>BTW ~ off topic, but Hugh Hewitt mentioned you this morning here: http://hughhewitt.com/archives/2006/05/14-week/index.php#a002221 He apparently doesn't know about this place, since he hopes "that D.J. starts up under his own name, as Lorie has, and soon."Adjoranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809616183507487000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148058629953192442006-05-19T12:10:00.000-05:002006-05-19T12:10:00.000-05:00DJ,I watched a show on the History Channel called ...DJ,<BR/><BR/>I watched a show on the History Channel called "Digging for the Truth" the other night that totally demolished the premise behind the novel/movie. The host went to great lengths to try and verify the story and came out with nothing but falsehood and hoaxes. It was a great show, I hope they show it again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148056774786331182006-05-19T11:39:00.000-05:002006-05-19T11:39:00.000-05:00I realize that flaming homosexual activist Ian McK...I realize that flaming homosexual activist Ian McKellen (who IS a brilliant actor) doesn’t believe in Jesus, but does Opie Howard? Or any of the other actors or crew that made Da Vinci Code? Did any of them speak up? Or question it? <BR/><BR/>Or did they all have the flip attitude of, hey, it’s just a movie. Lighten up! <BR/><BR/>I wonder if they’d be so brave going up to a radical fascist Muslim, show one of the Mohammed cartoons, and say, hey, lighten up, it’s just a drawing.<BR/><BR/>Apparently Opie Howard wanted to make a movie that "took a chance" instead of middle-of-the-road "safe." Well, fine. Since he chose one that directly assaults Christianity, I await his movie versions of "The Satanic Verses" which attacks Islam, and "The Protocals of the Elders of Zion," which attacks Judaism. <BR/><BR/>--Big MoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148055172269375872006-05-19T11:12:00.000-05:002006-05-19T11:12:00.000-05:00Of course Brown's book is not based on mew concept...Of course Brown's book is not based on mew concepts. His historical research is just going through ancient Gnostic and Arian legends, dusting them off, and presenting them as Truth. <BR/><BR/>They were not "truth" 2000 years ago (Gnostism actually predates Christianity) any more than they are truth today. <BR/><BR/>It is obvious why Hollywierd and the liberal establishment has glommed onto da Vicious Code. Those not doing the right thing instinctively try and tear down those that espouse virtues, both as a means of assuaguing their guilt and to make themselves feel superior to those that they realize in the heart of hearts are better than them.<BR/><BR/>In 50 years the book and movie will be forgotten.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148053688375239472006-05-19T10:48:00.000-05:002006-05-19T10:48:00.000-05:00"Brown made the fundamental mistake..."A mistake, ..."Brown made the fundamental mistake..."<BR/><BR/>A mistake, huh? He sold FORTY MILLION copies in like 30 countries.<BR/><BR/>Some mistake. By my math it would take you about 30,000 years to get that number of readers to your blog (and you ain't makin' $25 a customer).<BR/><BR/>I did appreciate your comments on the movie, though. I assume you've somehow seen the movie, since you say "in the movie they fail to impress."<BR/><BR/>I mean, if you make that comment and you have NOT seen the movie, well, that make you a ..... fraud? Hypocrite? Liar? Goofball?<BR/><BR/>You are endlessly amusing.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I've reviewed your post from next Thursday, and it failed to impress.<BR/><BR/>Bwa ha ha ha ha haAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148053543798253512006-05-19T10:45:00.000-05:002006-05-19T10:45:00.000-05:00I read Brown's book not long after it first came o...I read Brown's book not long after it first came out. I thought it was mildly entertaining, but not nearly as well-written and tightly crafted as many other mystery and action novels I have read. In other words, I was not particularly impressed with the book, regardless of the theological issues it tripped over. I knew that he was just exploiting for profit the theories that had been previously publised as historical facts regarding Christ's person - because I had also read some of these books. There was, in fact, a Christian sect that existed in northern Spain and along the Mediterranean Coast near what is the border between France and Spain that believed the very thesis that Brown made the center theme of his book. So, Brown did not make up this thesis out of clear blue air for malicious purposes; he merely exploited it, as many novelists do with their central themes.<BR/><BR/>What I find disturbing is the sheer numbers of people who read a novel (which is by definition fictional) and accept it, in whole or in part, as fact. And I similarly find it disturbing that we've become the video generation, accepting movies and video as more real world than truth itself.<BR/><BR/>It's the latter culture of ignorance that I believe are the real villans of this drama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com