tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post114868041254611964..comments2024-03-14T05:51:12.959-05:00Comments on Stolen Thunder: The Speech, Part 5 – Race IssuesDJ Drummondhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11583885371076583265noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148747563063068982006-05-27T11:32:00.000-05:002006-05-27T11:32:00.000-05:00I agree and just posted similar comments on my web...I agree and just posted similar comments on my website.<BR/>Mover MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148742611894584852006-05-27T10:10:00.000-05:002006-05-27T10:10:00.000-05:00Late last night Ed Morrisey at Captain's Quarters,...Late last night Ed Morrisey at Captain's Quarters, and early this morning Dafydd at Big Lizards both posted results and discussion of a recent internal poll taken for Republicans on the immigration issue. If you haven't seen this, the results will really surprise you.<BR/><BR/>While I don't, in general, put much credance in any poll (believing as I do that conducting business of the nation is slightly more serious than voting daily on issues, ala American Idol), even if the numbers in this poll are skewed, the sheer overwhelming numbers strongly suggest that the public who live their lives outside the echo chambers have very different opinions on immigration than the very vocal self-proclaimed "base." I.e., the self-proclaimed "base" may not be the base after all (surprise, surprise)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148734622043302272006-05-27T07:57:00.000-05:002006-05-27T07:57:00.000-05:00I respectfully dissent. Some innocent people may ...I respectfully dissent. Some innocent people may suffer if we crack down hard on businesses which employ illegals now. People, as you point out, being what we are. But the President's plan just defers the problem and potentially much greater suffering for our children to deal with.nkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00060554734576700517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7767671.post-1148700141934900652006-05-26T22:22:00.000-05:002006-05-26T22:22:00.000-05:00Dunno, DJ. Though I don't disagree with you, ther...Dunno, DJ. Though I don't disagree with you, there's another scenario that I think might be the real problem here, and which nobody wants to talk about.<BR/><BR/>In practically every town and city across this country there are organized, and there are informal, hiring "centers" for day workers. These day workers, I'd guess, are about 90-95% illegal immigrants. Once in a while there will be some protest or newspaper article about the city-organized centers, but I've never seen anything come of it. When you consider that every one of these places has 10s to 100s of workers waiting for a job every morning, and then multiply that by the thousands of such centers, one can easily see that a fair percentage, if not most, of the illegal immigrants seeking work are doing it through these centers.<BR/><BR/>You can bet that nobody is checking any papers when workers are picked up at these centers. There are two people breaking the law in every one of these tranactions - the illegal immigrant, and the hirer. Once in a while you will see someone complaining about the illegal immigrant day workers, but you NEVER see anyone complain, much less do anything, about the people who hire them.<BR/><BR/>Why? My guess is these people look too much just like you and me, i.e., they are our friends, our neighbors, our associates, and maybe us. And every one of them is knowingly flaunting the law. It would seem to me to be very easy to stop this practice, or at least discourage it, but I've never seen or heard of anybody doing anything about it.<BR/><BR/>I think it's this attitude of saying one thing, and doing another, that's the real problem in this whole debate. And I can't believe that President Bush and every INS official and every local law enforcement official doesn't know about the situation. So I guess I'd have to conclude that it's kind of repungent to make millions of ordinary citizens into law-breaking criminals or felons, or whatever (which is kind of a long way around to the same point you were making, but on a more individual level).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com